“Illegally Thin” is a cryptic title. What's this book about?

It's the true story of the most effective fat reduction drug ever discovered.

Why did you write this book?

To make people aware of what I believe is the most valuable and important drug ever discovered, to set the record straight on it, and to let the American people know the great injustice that has been done to them, in their being deprived of this perfect fat reduction drug.

Can you elaborate a little on what you mean by “set the record straight” for me?

Of course. There is a lot of misinformation about this drug. In my book I show that it has been clinically proven to be by far the most effective fat reduction drug ever discovered. Nothing else comes close. No one familiar with it disputes that it is by far the most effective fat reduction drug known. But its very existence, let alone its amazing history are unknown to most Americans. For example, for five years it was a legal prescription drug used by at least five hundred thousand Americans. Where my book sets the record straight is by proving that it is a safe and harmless drug. The FDA says it's dangerous. That's a lie. The truth is that this drug, aside from the occasional rare allergic reactions, an attribute all drugs share by the way, does no harm to any tissue, organs or systems of the body.

Let's set aside the safety issue for a minute. Just exactly how effective is this drug at reducing fat?

People have lost up to one and a half pounds of fat a day. At that rate a person could lose 45 pounds a month. But that is too fast, it is really overdosing to lose weight at that rate with this drug. Clinical tests that were run over the course of several months usually had average fat loss rates from one third to one half of a pound a day. That is roughly 10 to 15 pounds a month. Compare that to the top three selling prescription fat loss drugs out there. Clinical tests show that none of those three useless, expensive FDA approved drugs cause even one pound a month average fat loss.

You're saying that you can take a pill and lose 10 to 15 pounds a month safely, without diet or exercise?

Yes that is exactly what the Stanford University Clinics and other clinics around the world have found after years of human clinical testing with this drug. Over five hundred thousand Americans found the same thing that used it when it was a legal prescription and over the counter drug.

I have to tell you that most of the people listening are thinking that sounds too good to be true. What's the catch?

Other than the fact that the FDA banned it to protect the medical and pharmaceutical industries profits, there isn't one. As a matter of fact as we get into the details about this drug you will see that it actually gets better.

What do you mean by it only gets better?

That the more you learn about this drug the more you realize that it is a nearly perfect drug. I specifically state in my book “Illegally Thin” that I cannot think of a way you could realistically improve on it. That statement is based on a wide variety of information including my own use of this drug.

You have used it yourself? Isn't it illegal to use this chemical for fat reduction in this country?

Yes and yes.

Are you trying to promote illegal use of this drug?

No. I wouldn't publicly promote breaking the law. I am promoting its return to its former status as a legal prescription drug. Also people with the means could avail themselves of this drug's benefits by leaving this country to use it. And people around the world may be able to use it legally in their own country depending on the laws of that country.

So are you against people using it illegally?

I look at that issue this way. The ban of this drug is a great injustice perpetrated on the people of this country. I think that when the government has been corrupted to the point that it is acting against its citizens in a serious matter like this it becomes a gray area for an individual to privately break a bad law. I would leave that decision up to the individual conscience. But I think that openly flaunting the rule of law by actively promoting illegal activity is detrimental to our system of government. We are a nation of laws and I think that our system's legal structure is essential to our nation's well being. I do think it is reasonable for someone to privately advise someone else to use it, with good enough reason, as that advice would be a private act and not an open or public action. 

That's a pretty nuanced answer.

I am very big on the idea that individual liberty has greater dignity than the law. The law is good and necessary but still ultimately individual liberty is a more precious thing.

A little philosophy is a good thing but let's get back to your book. Now, just how safe and harmless is this drug?

Well I would say that it is the most harmless drug I know of, including Tylenol. It is also a very safe drug when not overdosed and used with basic common sense.

Can you be more specific about it being more harmless than Tylenol?

This drug was very extensively studied in clinics in this country and around the world. Before the start of World War II, Stanford University Medical Clinic did the most extensive human clinical studies in this country that I am aware of. After the first year and half of Human studies they released a report. They only found the danger of an allergic skin rash that affected a small percentage of patients. These Stanford Clinicians specifically described the action of this drug on the various systems and organs of the body. Their highly detailed and scientific human clinical testing showed it did no harm to the body at all. That report is reproduced whole and complete in my book Illegally Thin. These same scientists had also previously done clinical tests on dogs. They massively overdosed the dogs with a nearly fatal dose, every day for six months. They then did an autopsy on them and found no damage to the tissue or organs or anything else. If you did that with Tylenol you would have a lot of organ damage as well as other tissue damage.

Well if this drug is so safe why was it banned?

The official reason the FDA gave for banning it was that 1 percent of women that used it got cataracts.

That was the only reason they gave?

That is what it says on the official FDA website and that is what they have said in any FDA documents I have seen that refer to that point and that is what every historical document I have found says on that point. They may also have referred to overdose which is ridiculous. The danger of overdose is a universal trait of everything we can put in our mouths and is by definition dangerous.

Well, cataracts sounds like a fairly serious side effect.

Yes it would be except it is a very rare allergic reaction with this drug . About one in three thousand women were affected. It's not something that occurs as a result of the drug harming some part of the human organism in normal circumstances. It's an inherent weakness that affects a very small percentage of people. It is also treatable by the way. The normal protocol for allergic reactions is for people to take a drug and if they have an allergic reaction to quit, or to take something to counter the effects. That way everyone else that doesn't get a reaction can benefit from the drug. Since this drug has greater benefits for more people than perhaps any other drug, it is insanity to ban it for this reason.

Well maybe the FDA has a better grasp of the situation than you think.

I don't trust the FDA's judgment or good will and I am far from alone in that opinion. But more to the point why does the FDA allow liposuction and gastric bypass surgery? The side effects and risks with those two rather barbaric procedures are far worse and more common than a very rare cataract allergic reaction. Think about the suffering and difficulty and expense with gastric bypass. It costs twenty to fifty thousand dollars. Then there is all of the discomfort, the health and life threatening danger of major surgery and then eating becomes a torture for the rest of your life. Even if there is not an infection, there is the ever present risk of death resulting from that procedure. You can't tell me a very rare case of treatable cataracts compares to the traumatic life changing and health compromising realities that are always a part of every gastric bypass surgery. This drug works so well that you lose weight faster than with gastric bypass with nowhere near the risks, expense, side effects or suffering. The FDA allows this surgery because it is so expensive and devastating that very few people will use it. So there will still be plenty of fat people to keep the pharmaceutical and medical industries huge gross revenues rolling in.

So do you think the FDA is mistaken, or in bad will in the banning of this drug?

The FDA acts to protect the profits of the pharmaceutical industry. Supplying that industry with a monopoly and protecting it is its primary function. It chronically acts against the interests of the American public to serve this corrupt function. The banning of this drug is just the very worst single case of this corruption.

So you think the FDA is a completely corrupt institution?

Yes and as I said before I am not alone. Lou Dobbs of CNN says that all of the executives at the FDA need to be fired and that the corruption in the FDA is systemic. So pervasive is this manipulation of the FDA that Dr. Herbert Lay, after three years as FDA commissioner, resigned as head of that corrupt bureaucracy in exasperation. At the time he expressed his disgust to the San Francisco Chronicle saying, “The thing that bugs me is that people think the FDA is protecting them. It isn't. What the FDA is doing and what the public thinks its doing are as different as night and day.” (January 2, 1970). Now that is a man who ran the FDA, he sure ought to know.

And you say that the banning of this drug is the very worst thing the FDA has done?

Yes I truly believe that because this drug is the cure to the biggest health crisis in America. It is therefore logically the most important drug. It's also the most valuable quality of life drug as well. Imagine if everyone that was overweight became thin over the next year. How many health problems would disappear how much physical and emotional suffering? I do not believe there is any one drug that could do so much for so many. I'm not sure the next ten most valuable drugs combined could do that much good. If you think about it, just reintroducing this drug as a prescription medicine could possibly solve the problem of the nation's soaring expenditure on health care. I think if you could eradicate obesity and all other less serious weight conditions caused by excess body fat it could cut the gross expenditure on health care perhaps in half.

You actually believe this drug could do that?

Yes let me give you some more reasons I believe that. I haven't mentioned exactly how this drug burns fat. It burns fat in pretty much exactly the same way that exercise does. It also has the same side effects exercise does and only those side effects. This comparison to exercise in its effects on the body is something that is often stated by clinicians that worked with it. Here's how it works. All the cells in the body use the same form of energy to survive and perform their functions. It's called ATP. When you exercise you use up your ATP and the body replenishes it by burning stored body fat. Fat burning is a hot process so you get warm and begin to sweat. Well this drug works pretty much the same way. It causes the body's production of ATP to become less efficient by sort of hijacking the process and causing some of the energy be thrown directly off as heat before it can be converted to ATP. The body makes up for the short fall by burning fat.

So both exercise and this drug cause a shortage of this ATP and so cause the body to burn fat?

Yes you're exactly right and it is on a dose dependent basis. Take more of the drug burn more fat. Because the body does not have a mechanism to stop this process, thy sky is the limit at how fast you can burn fat off with this stuff.

What happens if you take too much?

Again that is dose dependent. If you take a moderately high dose you will get intensified side effects of working out. You'll get really warm, really tired and really sweaty. If you take an extremely large overdose you will overheat and die.

Well that seems like a pretty big downside that you did not mention before.

I agree with you that death is a pretty big downside. The reason I didn't mention it earlier is that overdosing to the point of dying is something you can do with pretty much every drug and just about everything else we can otherwise safely put in our mouths, including water. In other words it is a universal trait and not in any way particular to this drug. This is a point I make continually in my book because the FDA props up its whole misinformation campaign on this one deception.

You mean the FDA says this drug is deadly But doesn't mention that it is only deadly if overdosed?

You nailed it! They always use words like deadly and refer to deaths without mentioning it is only deadly in exactly the same way that everything else you can put in your mouth is.

Well is it easier to overdose on this stuff than with most things?

No and I will use Vicodin as an example. First I will give an idea of what multiple of the minimum effective dose is fatal for each drug. If you take one Vicodin pill as the minimum effective dose, then Vicodin becomes potentially fatal at eight times the minimum effective dose because as few as eight Vicodin pills can kill a person, that's according to the FDA. This drug has a minimum effective dose of 60 milligrams. The minimum fatal dose is generally considered to be around two thousand milligrams. That is a factor of over 30 to one. So Vicodin is about 4 times as easy to overdose as this drug is. The other comparison of this drug to Vicodin is perhaps even more telling. This drug was a legal prescription and over the counter medicine for five years in this country. During that period the lowest estimate of public use was over five hundred thousand people. There were as many as nine deaths attributed to it during that time. I won't go into the details now but at most six were really attributable to it. They were all over-dose related. That is roughly one in eighty thousand. I don't know the exact figures for Vicodin, but I know that it and the other opiate based pain killers are by some estimates the number two cause of accidental death in this country. So there is really no comparison either way you look at it.

So what you are saying is this drug is deadly only in the sense that Vicodin is deadly.

Yes and Vicodin is FDA approved. It has more side effects in number and seriousness than anyone even claims against this drug and it is far more dangerous for overdose. It has nowhere near the benefits this drug has either. The FDA is supposed to weigh benefit and risk and this drug blows away vicodin. But really, it is pretty clear that this drug blows away every drug without exception when it comes to the benefit risk ratio.

So why do you think the FDA allows Vicodin and not this drug.

They allow vicodin because in their estimation the benefits outweigh the risks. I will answer the question why they don't allow this perfect fat loss drug with a question. What do you think would happen to the gross revenues of the pharmaceutical and medical industries if there were no fat people in two years?

It would be a big drop in revenue for sure.

It would be economically cataclysmic for those industries. The medical-health industry comprises about one sixth of our economy. If its gross revenues dropped by a third to one half, the numbers would be mind boggling. You see, the stakes are really high here.

So are you saying that these industries are involved in a large scale conspiracy to deceive the American Public about this drug?

No I am really not a big conspiracy theory guy. While I do believe the FDA cynically protects the profit of the pharmaceutical companies and thereby undermines American's health and well being, I don't really consider that corrupt culture a conspiracy because the FDA is pretty blatant about it. It really is pretty common knowledge that the FDA is Big Pharma's lapdog. I don't think very many people in the medical industry or in the FDA are even aware of the existence of this drug let alone its history. What I do believe is that back when this drug was banned, a small number of medical/pharma executives made the decision that this drug was too big of a financial threat and so lobbied to get it illegalized by claiming it was dangerous. Because of their deep pockets, political entrenchments and the complicity of the FDA they managed. That was a conspiracy limited to a small number of people. But if this drug is brought to the attention of the present day leaders of these industries they will make sure it is never legalized for prescription use. They would never allow their revenues to be destroyed by it. They will claim it is dangerous, poisonous and deadly because they cannot admit their true reasons for opposing it. The FDA will actually make the claim for them and most everyone else will mindlessly parrot the FDA. The American people are being betrayed in a particularly heinous manner regarding this drug.

That is strong language and those are shocking assertions. Let's get back to some of the claims that this drug is dangerous? How do you explain all of these claims? I mean where there smoke there is usually some fire.

I agree that's usually the case. But in this instance it's pretty much all smoke and mirrors. The attack on this drug is pretty much without any true substance behind it. The first two parts of my book, Illegally Thin, goes to extreme painstaking detail to prove that very thing. As I have stated before, the only problem the greatest clinical experts found after grand scale testing with it is an allergic skin rash.

Let's go through the table of contents in your book to see how you develop your case for this drug.

Good idea let's do it

I see you have a friendly warning from the author at the very start here. What's that about?

The warning is that people should read my book “Illegally Thin before trying to research the subject themselves. My reason for this is that there is a lot of misinformation about this drug and it is almost all negative. If they don't read my book first they will almost certainly be confused and disillusioned by the confusion caused by the seventy plus years of propaganda.

Ok chapter one description and history.

In the first chapter I name the drug, describe it and outline its history, especially the period when it was a prescription and over the counter drug in the USA.

Chapter 2 “ Effectiveness as a Fat Reduction Therapy.”

In this chapter I explain how incredibly effective this drug is at fat reduction. 10 to 15 pounds a month is a rather slow pace for this drug and requires only moderate dosing. I use quotes attesting to this fact from human clinical studies that range from the 1930's to the 1980's.

I didn't realize this drug was tested so recently. Ok, chapter 3 Mode of Action on the Human Metabolism.

In this chapter I explain exactly how this drug works in considerable detail. I stress here as in several other places in the book how this drug burns fat in exactly the same way as exercise does. That it also has the same side effects as exercise and only those side effects. I even include a chart to exemplify this fact in addition to supporting it by statements from human clinical studies that make that same comparison to exercise.

That is just too good to be true. You can take a drug, lie down in a hammock and burn off 15 pounds of fat a month in exactly the same way as if you were exercising. Let's move on to Chapter 4 A Safe and Harmless Medicine.

In chapter four I explain just how completely harmless this drug is. For instance most all clinicians that did human or animal testing point out that its effects on the body are purely physiological. In other words it doesn't affect hormone levels or any other part of the endocrine system. It doesn't affect the pulse or heartbeat. It really only affects the rate you burn fat by an increase in the basal metabolic rate and that is it; period. It leaves the rest of the body alone. That is an absolute fact stated often by clinicians that worked extensively with it. For the purpose of fat burning it is identical to exercise. In other words it is a perfect fat burning drug,

You are making truly astounding claims. Now let's discuss chapter 5 “Don't Take My Word for it Listen to the Experts”

This chapter is a continuation of chapter 4's claims that this drug is harmless. The difference is that all of the claims I made in chapter four are now made by clinical doctors that did extensive human testing with this drug. Here are some of the findings that are covered in these quotes about this drug. 1. It has exactly the same effect as exercise on the human body. 2. That one of the best reasons for wide distribution of this drug for fat reduction therapy is that it does not affect the systems or organs of the body. 3. That it doesn't hurt the liver, 4. It doesn't hurt the kidneys, 5. That it differs from all other metabolic stimulants in that it does not affect the pulse, all clinicians agree on this point. 6. That it has no toxicity for the heart unlike Thyroxine. Thyroxine is a very nasty, side effect ridden, deadly substance used for medically supervised weight loss. Thyroxine is nowhere nearly as effective as this drug. The FDA did not ban this poisonous and rather ineffective stuff.Instead banned this safe and effective drug instead. Let those phonies at the FDA explain that. There are more quotes in my book but that gives you an idea.

I get the distinct feeling you're really not pro FDA.

Yeah I'm definitely less than enthused with that thoroughly corrupt government bureaucracy.

Chapter 6 looks interesting. It's titled “My Personal Experience with this Substance”

To begin with when I wrote that chapter I had only used this drug once. I have now used it several times for longer periods and with higher doses. This is one of the most interesting chapters in the book because it begins with an explanation of how I came to suspect the truth about this drug before I ever even saw the clinical studies. When I decided to write a book to get the truth out about this drug I knew I had to use it first. As far as my actual experience and results; the main side effect I noticed was the fat burning induced heat. I did it in the winter and was walking around outside in 30 degree weather in a tee shirt and jeans. It was really of a cool feeling. Remember, the only reason you are warm is you are burning fat just like exercise so you know it's really working. Anyway I did it for just ten days that first time and I lost six pounds of fat. At that rate I would have lost 18 pounds in a month. This drug has not harmed me or anyone I know that has used it and it has been incredibly effective at quickly removing fat. I know one person that recently lost 18 pounds in twenty four days. He is happy and I am so happy for him.

That is amazing. Ok we'll have to pick up the pace a little to get through the rest. Chapter 7 “The Three Real Human Health Concerns”

This chapter covers the only three real health concerns with this drug. The possibility of overdosing and two possible allergic reactions. That's it, and every drug can be overdosed and has people that have allergic reactions.

If it's true that those are the only problems, I'd say you have a strong argument for this drug. Chapter 8 “Benefit vs. Risk Comparison with FDA Approved Drugs”

The title says it all. I compare the benefit risk ratio of this drug with that of several popular prescription drugs in this chapter.

I bet I can guess which one wins that comparison. Chapter 8 “Various Negative Claims Analyzed”

This is a very important chapter and I think the longest. In It I analyze some government propaganda quotes and one complete and rather long FDA produced document. I show that the FDA has no real claims against this drug's safety. By breaking down these various quotes and documents line by line I show how the FDA paints a bad picture that is all smoke and mirrors. They have to because they do not have a legitimate reason for banning this drug. The long document that I scrutinize line by line is really just a hit piece on this drug written by the FDA to confuse Americans after a very successful use of it by a Texas doctor in the 1980s. In the early 1980s this doctor opened a chain of clinics in Texas that used this drug for fat reduction. Over 14,000 people were treated before the FDA shut him down. No deaths, no injuries, no lawsuits that I can find any record of or that the FDA mentions. This FDA hit piece even lists the reported side effects by patients and they were the same ones that you get with exercise.

Ok chapter 10 is titled FDA Fun Facts.

This chapter consists of excerpts from various documents showing how terribly and completely corrupt the FDA is. I include sources such as a US senator and his bill to limit FDA power and corruption, a report of court judgments against the FDA as well as other various experts on the subject of FDA corruption.

Now chapter 11 “Line of Reasoning, In a Nutshell”

This chapter is basically a logical outline of the facts and line of reasoning supporting my position on this drug.

Sounds like your cover all the bases. Next is Chapter 12 “Answers to Arguments.”

This chapter is my personal favorite and also a very important one to seeing the truth about this drug. It is also a long chapter but I answer all of the best questions that people have brought up to me and any I could anticipate that people might have.

Chapter 13 “Changing the Legal Status (USA)”

This chapter discusses my goal of returning this drug to legal prescription status. I discuss such things as the financial ramifications for certain industries, the powerful and well funded resistance such an effort to legalize this drug would face, the scenario that would give the best chance to succeed at this effort and the overwhelming good that would come as a result if it were returned to the American people as a prescription drug.

Chapter 14 “The final Word” sounds self explanatory

Yes the final word is a very brief summarization of the first part of the book.

After that is part two of the book. “Clinical Study Reports”

There are two reports in this part. The first one is the most important and comprehensive ever done. The Stanford University Medical Clinic Report lead by Drs. Cutting and Tainter was published in 1934. It's about 20 pages long. Very readable, very detailed, it covers years of animal studies, over one year of grand scale human testing, both by them at Stanford's clinics. It also covers over one year of public prescription use, clinical results from other testing around the country and more. The only negative they found was the allergic skin rash, period.

That report sounds like it is very strong support for your claims indeed. Part three of the book looks to be another whole new angle. “ Modern Day Use and Protocols”

In this last part of the book I cover modern day underground use. It includes various things learned from that use such as dosing and use protocols, side effects, dos and don'ts and actual logs kept by people who have used this drug That pretty much covers it..

We're out of time but thank you for revealing this very interesting information. Your book is titled “Illegally Thin.” Where is it available?

Illegally Thin can be purchased on my website at illegallythin.com, Atlas Books.com Amazon.com and by phone at 1800-booklog. Thank you for having me as a guest on your show..

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Illegally Thin

The true story behind the most effective fat burning drug known.

The most valuable drug ever discovered was taken from the American people 70 years ago. It is a fat burning drug, clinically proven to be so effective; it could quickly, safely and easily rid the world of all problems related to excess body fat. "Illegally Thin" is a new book that tells the true story of this drug, including the five years it was a prescription drug in this country. It also reveals many details of the present day underground use of this drug. The book's target audience is anyone that needs to lose weight through fat reduction; and anyone that is interested in government corruption particularly regarding the FDA. Knightworks Publishing is releasing this title on March 27 2009. Priced at 19.95 "Illegally Thin" will be available on that date at Illegallythin.com, Atlasbooks.com Amazon.com and 1-800-booklog.

This 240 page book proves its claims with extensive documentation including clinical studies, historical documents etc. Drs. Cutting and Tainter of Stanford University Medical Clinic are the true pioneers of this drug. They completed the most comprehensive human clinical testing on it in this country. Their definitive report on these clinical studies is included in its entirety in the book. This report completely and perfectly supports the author's claims regarding this drug. The book also includes an entire section on modern day underground use.

"Illegally Thin" was written by Random Knight. His passion for this perfect fat reduction drug and its being returned to the American People is evident in his detailed excavation of its incredible history. His firm conviction in this drug's unparalleled value is seen in the painstaking effort he employs in effectively setting the record straight regarding its safety and effectiveness; with facts, documentation and a little common sense.

Random Knight is available for interview. He has extensively researched this historically obscure drug and is comprehensively conversant regarding it and its remarkable history. Having used this drug himself, several times, his knowledge of it is also very direct and personal. 

Review copies are now available on request. If you have any questions regarding this information, would like a review copy sent to you or would like to arrange an interview, you can reach Random at 615-300-6183, his assistant Patricia at 615-400-4110 or email him at knightworks@live.com . You can view the book's website at illegallythin.com. You will find many media friendly tools available in the at www.illegallythin.com/ .

Thank you in advance for your interest.

Best regards

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